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Sub Prime
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:54:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:kratos candre wrote:From the blog, I'm guessing they will be pvp based. That's quite possibly the most ignorant pubbie statement I have ever seen. The only ship type that I can think of that was "designed" for PvE is marauders. All other ships are balanced around pvp. They just also happen to get used for PvE.
Gibbon, any ship that has PVP specific stats is designed for PVP, not PVE.
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Sub Prime
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Posted - 2011.10.21 18:09:00 -
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Nope, your point was effing awful. Bonuses and stats define what a ship is good at or bad at. What the OP is saying as that the ship may well be PVP focussed - i.e. have bonuses and stats specifically for PVP, like recon ships for example.
You can PVP in most ships, but that certainly doesn't mean that all those ships are better as PVP ships than PVE ships. |
Sub Prime
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Posted - 2011.10.21 20:14:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:Sub Prime wrote:Nope, your point was effing awful. Bonuses and stats define what a ship is good at or bad at. What the OP is saying as that the ship may well be PVP focussed - i.e. have bonuses and stats specifically for PVP, like recon ships for example. And where do you think those bonuses and stats come from? Perhaps....devs trying to balance pvp? As for "stats specifically for PVP," you are referring to "role specific ships" i.e. most Tech 2. Tech 1 ships were still balanced around...PVP. Quote: You can PVP in most ships, but that certainly doesn't mean that all those ships are better as PVP ships than PVE ships. I didn't say they were better for PVP, merely that they were designed and balanced around PVP, just as this ship will be. Reading comprehension is hard, amirite?
Jeez, the OP said that he/she thought it'd be a PVP based ship (i.e. its bonuses/stats would be more biased towards PVP than PVE).
Nothing more, nothing less. He/she said nothing about it being unbalanced PVP wise.
And saying T1 ships are balanced around PVP is laughable. Look at T1 Battleships and pirate faction ships for example. |
Sub Prime
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Posted - 2011.10.21 21:07:00 -
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Apologies, it wasn't the OP that you replied to.
That's the apologies over :cough:
By saying "it will be a pvp based ship" he was implying it would be a ships having a very PVP orientated role. Exactly the same as a recon.
Recons are pretty awful for PVE (forget going down the amarr droneboatd route) but very very good for PVP. Who's to say the new ship class is similar to the recon class in having a very PVP orientated role?
You on the other hand see things as black and white although it's not black and white at all:
+10 = Total PVP
0 = Equally competent in PVP or PVE
-10 = Total PVE
Recon ships +8
Marauders -10
These ships could actually turn out to be a +10 with amazingly niche PVP bonuses!!
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Sub Prime
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Posted - 2011.10.21 21:30:00 -
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XXSketchxx wrote:Sub Prime wrote:Apologies, it wasn't the OP that you replied to.
That's the apologies over :cough:
By saying "it will be a pvp based ship" he was implying it would be a ships having a very PVP orientated role. Exactly the same as a recon.
Recons are pretty awful for PVE (forget going down the amarr droneboatd route) but very very good for PVP. Who's to say the new ship class is similar to the recon class in having a very PVP orientated role?
You on the other hand see things as black and white although it's not black and white at all:
+10 = Total PVP
0 = Equally competent in PVP or PVE
-10 = Total PVE
Recon ships +8
Marauders -10
These ships could actually turn out to be a +10 with amazingly niche PVP bonuses!!
....are you intentionally ignoring everything I say? Fact: CCP designs ships. Said ships have bonuses and stats. Said ships are BALANCED with regards to pvp (i.e how they will combat other ships). You seem to be confusing recons with all ships. Yes recons are very specific to pvp; thats because they have a DEDICATED roll to fill. They still get used for pve. Is it effective? Meh, there are probably better ships for it. My tengu is great for pve. Was it balanced around it? No. It was balanced around how it would compete with other ships. It just happens to be damn good at pve too. My point is, this ship will be balanced/designed for pvp, just like every other ship. Whether or not it will be better for pve or pvp is a mystery for now. Is all this clear now?
Are you stupid? READ CAREFULLY!
The poster you replied to said it would be PVP based. Just because you think that he/she means PVP unbalanced is your problem, not his/hers.
And ROFL on the Tengu/T3 arguement as an example. Do you think the Legion for example is superior or inferior to the Loki for PVP? |
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